Агар шумо иваз кунед: Паёми хидоятии шумо ба Опера
opera has always been a browser for power users, but you will lose those if you remove all power features. replacing the browser engine seems like a good thing, though; opera next is very fast indeed. but that's the only positive thing i can say about it... very sad.
i hope there will be more old functions and customization. no hate.
disgusting
i really dislike the empty feeling of chrome, and if opera is going to be just another version of that, then all i can say is that it was nice to have the functionality and innovations in opera. but if a lot of that gets discarded and it becomes a chromium/blink-based browser with silly gimmicks instead of useful features, i see no reason to keep using opera. it's a shame that good things come to an end, and i can't even happily use opera 12.15 now, as i'm sure there will be unpatched vulnerabilities that make its use unwise!
please make it right with 15.x.
thanks for the big f.u.!! i spent 9 years coping with horrible multi-daily occurring site/script incompatibilities/errors of your tiny market share browser because of the importance of the features above. i really hope your company folds up because by ditching all your loyal "customers" it's pretty much what you are begging for!
if i wanted chrome, i would use it. i want opera with all the features - if the "new" opera is such a downgrade, there won't be any users left (as opera was always for the nerdier crowd, who knows what they are doing!)
no one cares which engine you are using... everyone wants the old-time opera looks and features... that's it.
it was great while it lasted.
what the hell were the developers thinking? *throws stones*
it was a fun time with opera, and i generally like the looks of opera 15. but what use is a nice exterior if i can't properly work with the browser anymore because it lacks bookmarks, rocker gestures, tab stacking, custom searches, and session? as a research tool, this browser is useless. sad but true. i'll keep opera on my system out of nostalgia, but i won't use it on a regular basis anymore.
if opera goes live like next 15 does, it's just a chrome clone -- and a bad one, too. i can get a better opera12-like experience with another browser and a few plugins. this is sad. :(
i miss when opera cared about its users. it was constantly improving speeds, reliability, and making sure pages without optimization for opera displayed properly. opera used to be an innovator; plenty of must-have opera features were later integrated into other browsers.
dumping the features that opera users love will only cause them all to leave and cause irreparable pr damage. why would i want an rss reader separate from the browser? the built-in irc client is fantastic, and i love being able to customize every part of the ui to suit myself. i'll be sticking with 12.15 until a later version has the features i love or it becomes too outdated and i change to a browser that suits my needs.
not why did you drop presto: why did you drop everything else with it? why!!???
i'll stay with opera 12; at present, there are no comparable options... i think it's sad; the development around the presto engine is elegant, integrated, and flows. i love the flexibility and customization and respected opera as an entity willing and able to do something functional and unique!
i understand developers wanting to spend more time implementing new features, and less time debugging current ones. as a developer myself, believe me: i get it.
however, i think if opera is to get such a major overhaul that it is to lose its identity, its uniqueness in the process, it will in fact become a chrome clone. and why bother with a facsimile when you can use the real chrome? i urge my nordic friends: reinstate as many opera-specific features as possible in release 15.1 (or .01 even), otherwise the opera fanbase will diminish, if not disappear altogether.
i've already tested the new release candidate (that's how i see it at the moment), and could see very few differences with chrome, which i was afraid of... so yes, if opera is approximately equal to chrome, then i'll drop opera, the same way operadev is betraying (that's how it feels) their users.
m., disgruntled in holland
i am moving to a browser that needs 6 (and counting) add-ons to do the job you did. and it's not so pretty. don't make me do this. give me my opera back!!
it has been a great friend ...
sorry, many good features from opera 12 are missing. i might as well install chrome...
have to invent a time machine.
find your way and be as good as you were. opera next looks very promising, but excluding mail, irc, and so on, is really bad.
i used opera from 2008 to 2010, then switched to firefox for full personalization possibilities (including full themes, interface changes), and lately moved to pale moon (a firefox-based browser for windows) due to the upcoming chrome-like look and feel of the "australis" ui starting from firefox 25... despite that, i still liked opera and used it occasionally for being a different browser with its own identity like firefox; unfortunately, all of the browsers—excluding safari and internet explorer from now on—are going the chrome way, technically and/or in terms of ui...
if only opera had a bookmarks management page and/or panel...
why did you do this? l2market
if you want to create a new browser, please let the old one die in peace. the pr with the switch has disgusted me; be a man and be straightforward about what you want to do with this browser and accept the criticism. don't beat around the bush, don't lie to us, and especially don't make it seem like this is what we all wanted.
goodbye sweet prince. i can't live without mouse gestures, bookmarks, and if there is a process for each tab in my browser, it's going to kill my computer.
i liked opera as one of the last browsers that actually had a decent memory footprint, fast startup, fantastic browsing session management, and responsive ui. i despised chrome for having a terrible memory footprint and quickly becoming unresponsive as the number of open tabs went up.
slowly but surely, opera's advantages, even with presto, have been eroded away as websites make increasing use of the dom and javascript, and opera simply cannot keep up. (for example, try scrolling through the facebook news feed.) what's worse, opera's footprint (even with presto) has increased beyond that of firefox, ceteris paribus.
now, with the multi-process model imported from chromium, i'm afraid opera is much less usable for me, so i'm switching to firefox, which has arrested the growth of its memory footprint (and has succeeded in substantially reducing it over the past few years), and also has much more workable javascript and dom performance and correctness.
farewell, opera, your competence will be missed.
removing options is evil. (jon)
opera used to be the best, but now... in my opinion, the development is going in the wrong direction, so it's a shame.
why??
why can't i simply automatically clear my history/cookies & tabs when closing the browser??
why can't i manage bookmarks like opera 12??
why can't i manage site preferences like opera 12??
why is there no opera:config so that you can tweak some settings??
why are you just making a simple fork of chrome/chromium? now i'm missing essential features as mentioned above.
hey opera, if you are not listening to your users, they will simply leave you. -> i'm going to firefox & pale moon x64.
i have used opera for most of my online life. now, you are ruining what opera has been all this time. i'm saddened by this and you are making me seriously think of switching browsers for the first time.
farewell "just another webkit chrome crap"
i appreciated the opera browser in a way that, it seems, the company didn't.
it was a real diamond in the rough, back in the days when firefox was in mere beta and aol / internet explorer ruled supreme. though shortened development cycles and mismanagement have made its shine duller through the years, opera nonetheless remained reliable and extensible in a way that other browsers could not compare. whenever our computers needed to be upgraded or replaced, opera was always the first program my family downloaded.
i was a bit disappointed when opera announced that they were abandoning the presto engine - but hey, as long as opera remained the trusty multitool it's been for the past ten years or so, who cares? -- but at what cost, the switch? opera 15 is a laughable mistake. you've eviscerated the features that earned it a loyal following and, in turn, churned out a poor, impotent clone of google chrome.
who in their right mind will use opera now, when chrome and firefox - at least - have a more important feature than stacks and a speed dial right out of the box? i am referring to bookmarks. what sort of half-wit browser doesn't come with the most basic, the most crucial feature of online browsing? even the most questionable and shoddily built of web browsers in the recesses of the android store come with bookmarks!
by god! if you're at least going to raze the browser to the ground, rebuild it with a feature that even the most casual of internet users rely on a daily basis! i am leaving opera not because of a change of engines or policy - i am leaving because using this castrated mess of a browser is embarrassing.
it's nice to have a faster browser that is compatible with many chrome addons, but the trade-off is so tremendous that it makes the new opera far inferior to the classic opera.
goodbye
so long, and thanks for all the fish!
no seriously... i don't eat fish. opera has always been the best browser and a shining example of well thought out features. as a matter of fact, opera would've been the only browser i'd be willing to pay a reasonable price for.... ever. since the decision to introduce extensions, opera has slowly been going downhill though. i've been sticking by opera, because i could just not use those features (even though they had performance impact, etc.) now with v15 everything that made opera the superior browser has been removed. i'm going to stick to opera 12 as long as possible, hoping those features come back. until either the new opera has the same great features again, or i'm forced to say goodbye to opera altogether (which might happen because more and more sites actively don't support opera and if i have to switch to a chrome clone i might as well use chrome itself). that would be a shame, i've been a very loyal user since i've discovered opera and have always advised other people to use it as well. most weren't advanced enough users to be able to appreciate the features, but most of my classmates used it as well. of the current preview versions all i can say is: it's a crippled chrome clone.
fu, ruined the browser, so long.
hope to return.
thank you, we had a great time together! i'll be missing...
chropera
guys, i think, for the sake of opera, there is no need to follow the chrome style (beta, next, stable). we all love the default way; there is no need to change its appearance. everybody loves the current 12.15 version gui. you should have your own identity, not follow trends set by others (firefox, chrome).
it pains me to see this happen to what was arguably the best browser on the market at one time. i spent hours on the phone with providers asking them to make their pages standards-compliant so that they would work with opera, but version 12 and all of its troubles with facebook and google may have killed you. i understand the business desire and the thinking that it's easier to just give in than to fix what you built. i am just sorry that it's led to the end of a great product. any chance of making it open source (presto and such) so that people who like it can make it work and advance in the future?
i understand what you're trying to do. changing the rendering engine to devote more development to features is fine. switching to webkit (the engine) was certainly not a bad move, but that didn't mean you had to switch to chromium.
maxthon is a fine example of how you can build a webkit browser from scratch without getting stuck within the constraints of chromium.
rest in peace.
it's your software, so i suppose you can do whatever you want with it. thank you for how it used to be.
too bad
rip opera browser
1996-2013
was driven to suicide by its own peers
your users will miss you.
thanks to opera software for years of my internet experience with this browser. i won't forget how google destroyed the future of opera. please choose another name for your chromium-based project. the history of "opera" deserves a happier ending.
you should have more faith in your users.
rest in peace.
the truckload of features in a very small installer has been my most favorite thing about opera. since i've been using it for a very long time, this "change of direction" that opera has decided to take affects me as a user tremendously! i cannot stick with opera in its current state, because i can no longer do my activities on the internet like i used to. this naturally leads me to switching to another browser that offers features that i like.
opera has always had its problems with various sites, but i'd prefer that over being just another chrome... firefox, here i come...
it's a shame that it had to come to this. opera was the only browser that had style. it allowed us, the users, to do whatever we wanted to do with it. the customization offered in opera couldn't be surpassed by any other browser (except maybe firefox with extensions). now opera has become a chrome clone without even bookmarks or basic ui customization. the only thing they kept in the new version is the speed dial, but even that's mediocre compared to the old one. opera seems unlikely to change right now since it arrived in a beta version. maybe in a couple of years from now when opera brings back all the previous features, it'll take my place as my browser, but right now i feel that the closest thing to opera is seamonkey/firefox with extensions.
at least open source the engine.
it's really a shame to see so many great features get dropped. opera used to be the browser of innovation, but now there is little pioneering spirit from the company. i will continue using my current version until i see any reason to upgrade, as much as i agree with the benefits of changing the rendering engine.
the death of opera is like losing an old friend few people understand, but one that you always fought for. opera 15 isn't worthy of a fight.
why did you move from a rich browser environment designed and built far from the reach of the nsa to a core from one of the nine companies known to be cooperating with them? why not call the new version "back doors are us"?
i'm sad you've decided to take this route.
it's understandable why you'd switch to the webkit rendering engine. compatibility among other things has been a pretty major issue in the past year as newer specifications have come out.
that said, you offered huge amounts of customization that no other browser offers. the workflow i can achieve with opera is easily twice as efficient as something like chrome or firefox that offer limited mouse/keyboard shortcut options and are also lacking proper speed dial implementations.
as it stands i'm going to have to start writing a bunch of autohotkey scripts to emulate opera workflow in something like chrome.
here's hoping to most of the features making their way back into opera over the coming months! :d
no first-class support for linux is absolutely ridiculous these days.
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you guys stood out for being a browser for power users, a browser that could take a beating handling hundreds of tabs with ease. a browser that had an incredibly small memory and space footprint, that could start instantly, even though you had a wide range of features. a browser that was compact, powerful and highly customizable and ahead of its time.
opera was never just another browser. it was its own class of software, in my opinion. opera was the perfect "internet suite": feature rich and yet not bloatware. everything was optional. you're now removing all our power of customization. you're now removing all the features and innovations and controls we learned to love and rely on throughout the years. these are part of our core web experience.
and now, claiming to be improving "the core web experience", you are getting rid of all of it, just to become a chrome front end. this is sickening. you're ruining the one good thing you guys have at hand.
i'm an avid fan of opera and loyal user. i have been for years. thanks to opera, i was able to experience the internet when all i had was a very crappy computer that could barely run other browsers (a pentium 133 mhz with 16 mb of ram, from 1997 to 2002!). it played a huge role in my early internet life. it made internet worth it. and thanks to that early step, i was able to become a developer, a programmer, a fluent speaker of english, and achieve a lot of the things i'm proud and grateful for today. opera played an undeniable role in helping me with that, as it was the portal that allowed me to explore the vastness of the internet with the little resources i had available.
and now, it seems like opera will turn its back on me. as crazy as it sounds, it's heartbreaking. it really is. i never thought i'd get that from a company.
opera, please, remember that you guys were always on the frontier of the idea of what the web experience is and should be. don't stop being the example to the rest of the browsers.
listen to your users, not managers.
thanks for the 220% value on the shares, at least.
ffs, what's the point? we already have chrome. it wasn't the icon that made me use opera, it was the unique features.
i will try to stay with the "old opera" as long as possible, and after that ... bye, bye.
why?
"a bad word that i can't say – that starts with f" you!
i miss the old opera!
make the old opera open source!
this was a poor business move. they should have prioritized users over profit.
i'll come back when old features return to opera or when new irresistible features are introduced. opera used to differentiate itself from other major browsers with so many nice little features. not that i used all of them, but no other browser had all the features i needed. other users would say the same, only that the feature sets they needed aren't exactly the same as mine.
rest in peace.
i worked at an it service company and installed opera on thousands of computers, and now you made me switch to chrome. that saddens me.
i found this quote amazing: "the downloads experience should be much better now, for instance." on which planet are these people living? there is no download dialog. no open button. no way to customize download actions for mime types and extensions. any sort of advanced downloading is impossible now.
mouse gestures are useless. they barely work and cannot be customized. bookmarks are still missing. anyone who thinks speed dial or stash can replace bookmarks must be completely delusional or have very few bookmarks and folders. adblock and abp fail to block ads in speed dial thumbnails. search engines cannot be customized properly. in fact, there are hundreds of important missing features.
the new opera is very, very far from being usable. a lot of features need to come back first.
i liked you so much. i was a real fan for many, many years. it's really sad that you have given up.
goodbye. good luck.
by far the most critical features are: m2 and feeds.
die with grace, if you so desire, and leak or release all of the code.
please, let opera 12.15/presto become open source!
dear ugly new independent scandinavian subdivision,
first, sorry for my english,
i want to say a real big fat thank you for cia mode neutralizing true opera presto and deeply introducing me to all these amazing ms things like x64 ie 10 which is fast, light, and with free adfender übercool, outlook.com, skydrive with synchronization, and free online mso 2013 which does not need special assistance like a crippled uglydocs.
p.s. once more, big walrus thanks for changing "only motor."
just dropping years of work was a catastrophic decision.
despite its few shortcomings, it really was the best browser.
dear opera, you killed the best internet suite ever created.
oh well, who would have thought a browser with zero features could fail?
thank you for the best browser so far. please re-add bookmarks, release a linux version, and i will give it a try.
i don't think opera developers have more than 6-8 months to deliver a real product instead of this... very early prototype/draft. it should have never seen the light of day.
you've basically created a new, inferior skin for chrome. there is no point.
goodbye opera! once you were a browser i loved to use.
please bring back v12 features.
when i first tried opera next (15), i thought it was an extremely early alpha version basically showing what they're going to build on. to hear this is actually feature complete is appalling and i'm devastated. i was really looking forward to having opera using the blink engine, because presto, quite frankly, is terrible; but the browser itself is amazing. i want the current browser with the blink engine. instead, opera next (15) has given us blink (basically chrome) with an opera skin on top. there are no features at all. i'm really, really disappointed.
sadly, all good things come to an end.
don't kill old opera :(
we need to go leaner.
you were the best... but now...
why all this? i can understand the change of engine, but i don't understand why you removed all the 'good stuff'. that stuff made opera opera - and that is why i chose it in the first place. opera does not have a big market share, so i assume that a big part of the user base chose opera for its unique features as well. it is so sad to see opera (and what opera stood for) get killed.
thank you, you ruined your browser...
i used opera for many years because of its features and smooth scrolling of pages. however, the lack of features in the newer opera, now using the blink engine, no longer makes this browser good anymore. hopefully, opera developers will think ten times about bringing features back; otherwise, the future might be uncertain.
there is really no point in any message. the damage is done. these morons have made up their minds, and nobody is going to change those google chrome minds. they don't care what i think and they don't care what you think.
goodbye pleasant browsing. skins were the essence of opera, unite was the future. sorry to see them go, and now you.
goodbye, opera. you were the only browser that correctly managed my dozens or hundreds of adhd-induced tabs, and the only browser that allowed me to fully customize it to meet my needs.
i am ready to support opera through any struggles, but i can't excuse the abandonment of all opera core values and philosophy. firefox is much closer to the real opera than this opera-branded fake. goodbye.